A Member I Guess He Is A Member Of The NAACP Expressed His Issue With The NAACP Because The NAACP Supports Gay Equality

G Alan FitchYou say here is the link but you said, "NAACP Supports Gay Marriage" and some others have said the same but the link from the NAACP says, "NAACP Passes Resolution in Support of Marriage Equality"

I am not as educated as you sir and some others who twist words around. I am just ignant my friend so help me out. I know what the NAACP said so what are you saying? Supporting Gay Equality is the same as Supporting Gay Marriage? If that be the case why in the hell didn’t you word it the same way as the link from NAACP?

Damn it was listed on the ballot as Amendment One but it was all about Same Sex Marriages so why some folks have to twist the words to get what they want accomplished?

I get so sick and tired of other folks ignance. But just maybe I am wrong but I don’t find both being the same.

All I got to say is I hope folks don’t allow their ignance to make them make an ignant decision in November because, “If We Ever Needed To Vote We Sure As Hell Need To Do It Now!” Rev. Dr. William Barber, II addresses the NAACP, July 11, 2012


Same Sex Marriage 

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The debate should be civil – Wilson Times

North Carolina lawmakers who supported putting Amendment One — the measure inserting a definition of marriage into the state Constitution — on the ballot did so hoping that the resulting vote would settle the issue once and for all. Instead it seems as though the state has kicked a hornets’ nest, with the argument still raging and with more poisonous vitriol than before.  (More)

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Pastor Moss’ Response to President Obama’s Comments on Marriage Equality by Trinity United Church of Christ

Response: Good preaching! Rights vs rites! I love it! Right on! Right!! Right on!!!

Pastor Moss’ Response to President Obama’s Comments on Marriage Equality

by Trinity United Church of Christ on Monday, May 14, 2012 at 9:21pm · An Open letter to African American Clergy As a result of a group of ministers claiming they are going to pull support from the President, and either not vote or switch support to the Republican party, this response was crafted.

My Brother:

… Tell your brethren who are part of your ministerial coalition to “live their faith and not legislate their faith” for the constitution is designed to protect the rights of all. We must learn to be more than a one issue community and seek the beloved community where we may not all agree, but we all recognize the finger print of the Divine upon all of humanity.

There is no doubt people who are same gender loving occupy prominent places in the body of Christ. For the clergy to hide from true dialogue with quick dismissive claims devised from poor biblical scholarship is as sinful as unthoughtful acceptance of a theological position. When we make biblical claims without sound interpretation we run the risk of adopting a doctrinal position of deep conviction but devoid of love. Deep faith may resonate in our position, but it is the ethic love that forces us to prayerfully reexamine our position.

The question I believe we should pose to our congregations is “ Should all Americans have the same civil rights?” This is a radically different question than the one you raised with the ministers “Does the church have the right to perform or not perform certain religious rites?” There is difference between rights and rites. We should never misconstrue rights designed to protect diverse individuals in a pluralistic society versus religious rites designed by faith communities to communicate a theological or doctrinal perspective. These two questions are answered in two fundamentally different arenas. One is answered in the arena of civic debate where the constitution is the document of authority. The other is answered in the realm of ecclesiastical councils where theology, conscience and biblical mandates are the guiding ethos. I do not believe ecclesiastical councils are equipped to shape civic legislation nor are civic representatives equipped to shape religious rituals and doctrine.

The institution of marriage is not under attack as a result of the President’s words. Marriage was under attack years ago by men who viewed women as property and children as trophies of sexual prowess. Marriage is under attack by low wages, high incarceration, unfair tax policy, unemployment and lack of education. Marriage is under attack by clergy who proclaim monogamy yet think nothing of stepping outside the bonds of marriage to have multiple affairs with “preaching groupies.” Same gender couples did not cause the high divorce rate, but our adolescent views of relationships and our inability as a community to come to grips with the ethic of love and commitment. We still confuse sex with love and romance with commitment.

My father, who is a veteran of the civil rights movement and retired pastor, eloquently stated the critical nature of this election when speaking to ministers this past week who claim they will pull support from the President as a result of his position. He stated, “ Our Ancestors prayed for 389 years to place a person of color in the White House. They led over 200 slave revolts and fought in eleven wars, one being a civil war where over 600,000 people died. Our mothers fought and were killed for women’s suffrage, our grandparents were lynched for the civil rights bill of 1964 and the voting rights act of 1965 . . . my father never had the opportunity to vote and I believe it is my sacred duty to pull the lever for every member of my family who was denied the right to vote. I will not allow narrow minded ministers or regressive politicians the satisfaction of keeping me from my sacred right to vote to shape the future for my grandchildren.”

Gay and Lesbian citizens did not cause the economic crash, foreclosures and attack upon healthcare. Poor underfunded schools were not created because people desire equal protection under the law. We have much work to do as a community and to claim the President of the United States must hold your theological position is absurd. He is President of the United States of America not the President of the Baptist convention or Bishop of the Sanctified or Holiness Church . He is called to protect the rights of Jew and Gentile, male and female, young and old, Gay and straight, black and white, Atheist and Agnostic. It should be note the President offered no legislation, executive order or present an argument before the Supreme Court. He simply stated his personal conviction.

If we dare steal away from the noise of this debate we will realize as a church we are called to “Do justice, live mercy and walk humbly with God.” Gay people have never been the enemy and when we use rhetoric to suggest they are the source of our problems we lie on God and cause tears to flow from the eyes of Christ.

I am not asking you to change your position, but I am stating we must stay in dialogue and not allow our own personal emotional prejudices or doctrines to prevent us from seeing the possibilities of a beloved community.

November is fast approaching and the spirits of Ella Baker, Septima Clarke, Fannie Lou Hammer, Rosa Parks, A. Phillip Randolph, James Orange, Medger Evers and Martin Luther, King Jr. stand in the balcony of heaven raising the question; “Will you do justice, live mercy and walk humbly with our God?” Emmitt Till and the four little girls who were assassinated in Alabama during worship did not die for a Sunday sermonic sound bite to show disdain for one group of God’s people. They were killed by an evil act enacted by men who believed in doctrine over love. We serve in ministry this day because of a man who believed in love over doctrine and died on a hill called Calvary in a dusty Palestinian community two thousand years ago. Do not let the rhetoric of this debate keep you from the polls my friend.

Asking you to imagine a beloved community, your brother and friend, Otis Moss, III Senior Pastor Trinity UCC

Note: This link is to the video from Sunday, May 13, where Rev. Moss read an excerpt of the letter to the congregation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7Ktjqf9Vi4.

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Zimmerman on Dangerous Drugs, People Obama should pardon and NAACP Gay Marriage Decision – Black Talk Radio

Response: I found the piece on NAACP Gay Marriage Decision to be quite interesting as an NAACP Life Fully Paid Member.

Black Talk Radio: The NAACP has officially endorsed Gay Marriage framing it as a civil rights issue, will this cause a rift in the membership base with many of its chapter presidents being pastors of Christian churches. (More)

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Updated: Same Sex Marriage, Amendment One, The Constitution, The Bible, NC General Statue Chapter 51 Marriage

I can’t handle the talking discussions one on one when folks are trying to say what others are saying and then trying to say what they are saying. Please write it. You can do it without posting your name, email or anything that will allow others to know who you are. I think it is called posting anonymously however if you ain’t scared sign your name.

Please copy and paste and respond under each category. Thanking you in advance.

Talk to me tell me about the following:

Same Sex Marriage. What does it say in the following about Same Sex Marriage or do it say anything?







*North Carolina General Statue 51 Marriage


Now tell me your personal opinion on Same Sex as it relates to:








*NC General Statue 51 Marriage



Note: I know where President Obama and the NAACP stand so you don’t need to include them. I want to hear from you.

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Media Advisory: NC NAACP to Hold News Conference on National NAACP Endorsement of Marriage Equality

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NC NAACP Letterhead



May 20, 2012


For More Information:           Rev. Dr. William J. Barber, II, President, 919-394-8137

                                               Mrs. Amina J. Turner, Executive Director, 919-682-4700


NC NAACP News Conference on Endorsement of Marriage Equality 


DURHAM – The North Carolina State Conference of the NAACP will hold a news conference on Monday morning to discuss the decision to endorse marriage equality by the NAACP National Board of Directors over the weekend.


The news conference will take place at 11:45 AM at the North Carolina Institute for Minority Economic Development building at 114 W. Parrish Street, Durham, NC, 4th Floor.


Three members of the National Board are from North Carolina: Rev. Dr. William J. Barber, II, President of the North Carolina NAACP and chair of the Political Action Committee for the National Board; Ms. Carolyn Q. Coleman, 1st Vice President of the North Carolina NAACP and Assistant Secretary of the National Board; Mr. Lenny Springs, Assistant Treasurer of the National Board.


Below is the media release from the National NAACP regarding this endorsement:


NAACP Passes Resolution in Support of Marriage Equality

Decision Affirms Opposition to Government Efforts to Codify Discrimination


(Miami, Florida) The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People today released a resolution supporting marriage equality. At a meeting of the 103-year old civil rights group’s board of directors, the organization voted to support marriage equality as a continuation of its historic commitment to equal protection under the law.

"The mission of the NAACP has always been to ensure the political, social and economic equality of all people," said Roslyn M. Brock, Chairman of the Board of Directors of the NAACP. "We have and will oppose efforts to codify discrimination into law."

"Civil marriage is a civil right and a matter of civil law. The NAACP’s support for marriage equality is deeply rooted in the Fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution and equal protection of all people." said Benjamin Todd Jealous, President and CEO of the NAACP.

The NAACP has addressed civil rights with regard to marriage since Loving v. Virginia declared anti-miscegenation laws unconstitutional in 1967. In recent years the NAACP has taken public positions against state and federal efforts to ban the rights and privileges for LGBT citizens, including strong opposition to Proposition 8 in California, the Defense of Marriage Act, and most recently, North Carolina’s Amendment 1, which changed the state constitution’s to prohibit same sex marriage.

Below is the text of the resolution passed by the NAACP board of directors:


The NAACP Constitution affirmatively states our objective to ensure the "political, educational, social and economic equality" of all people. Therefore, the NAACP has opposed and will continue to oppose any national, state, local policy or legislative initiative that seeks to codify discrimination or hatred into the law or to remove the Constitutional rights of LGBT citizens. We support marriage equality consistent with equal protection under the law provided under the Fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution.  Further, we strongly affirm the religious freedoms of all people as protected by the First Amendment.






Founded in 1909, the NAACP is the nation’s oldest and largest civil rights organization. Its members throughout the United States and the world are the premier advocates for civil rights in their communities, conducting voter mobilization and monitoring equal opportunity in the public and private sectors.  



NAACP Endorses Same-Sex Marriage – The Root

Quote: “Civil marriage is a civil right and a matter of civil law,” NAACP president Benjamin Todd Jealous said in a statement released Saturday. “The NAACPs support for marriage equality is deeply rooted in the Fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution and equal protection of all people. The well-funded right wing organizations who are attempting to split our communities are no friend to civil rights, and they will not succeed.”

Ten days after President Barack Obama announced his support for same-sex marriage, the NAACP has voted to endorse it as well.

From the Washington Post:

The NAACP now presents itself as a counterbalance to the influence of the traditionally socially conservative black church. It can also help establish closer ties between blacks and gays, two of Obamas most loyal constituencies. (More)

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